Chris and Paul Weitz say Murderbot Doesn’t Want to Be a Real Boy
The Gist
Mike Pesca
4.4 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 14 July 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
Murderbot showrunners Chris and Paul Weitz join to discuss their sci-fi series’ blend of chamber thriller, workplace satire, and reluctant hero tale—all orbiting a security unit who just wants to be left alone to binge his stories. They talk robot servitude, world-building exhaustion (“every chair must be a space chair”), and how Alexander Skarsgård’s performance brings Scandinavian placidity to a roiling interior monologue. Also: the GOP goes ball(point)istic over Biden’s legal use of an autopen.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm doing a substack live on Wednesday. I enjoy doing these, especially when you could get a person |
| 0:05.2 | on top of the news and you could hash it out, chop it up. I'm struggling to come up with a third |
| 0:09.5 | piece of diner lingo, Adam and Eve on a raft. Anyway, my guest is Sam Stein. He's the managing |
| 0:15.3 | editor of the bulwark, and I watch a lot of his videos where he talks to people in the bulwark, and now I'm taking him out of his bulwark zone, his MSNBC zone. |
| 0:23.4 | And I'm inviting him and you to Substack live. |
| 0:27.0 | If you don't follow me on Substack already, please do. |
| 0:29.5 | I also have the gist list every day. |
| 0:31.2 | And it's a way to join me as I join with some of the more interesting people in the news today, Sam Stein, who's a long-time friend |
| 0:39.5 | of mine. I haven't talked to him in many years, though I've been hearing from him as has, |
| 0:43.8 | as he's been covering, oh, some of the let us say excesses of the Trump administration. |
| 0:48.8 | 3 p.m. All times Eastern Standard Wednesday. |
| 0:56.0 | It's Monday, July 14th, 2025 from Peachfish Productions. |
| 1:00.6 | It's the gist. I'm Mike Pasca. |
| 1:02.8 | In Spanish, it is Machina de Ferm Automatica. |
| 1:06.3 | In German, it is intershifting automat, or alternatively automachina, signature machine. Literally in German, the is Untrschiften automat or alternatively automachina signature machina, literally in German, |
| 1:14.2 | the words for what we call the autopen. |
| 1:17.6 | And the Republicans are calling for Joe Biden's use of the device, totally legal, by the way, as |
| 1:23.8 | worthy of investigation. |
| 1:26.4 | And Donald Trump just today called it the biggest presidential scandal in perhaps 50 or |
| 1:32.1 | 100 years. |
| 1:33.6 | So just under the wire for the T-Pen Dome scandal. |
| 1:37.4 | Clearly, Trump is saying it is bigger than the Iran-Sharpie Affair or Parker Gate. |
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