All right, so J.T. we're going to do a podcast today about cutting through the

BS and actually doing work. Let's do it. So I'm going to have you give us a tour

over here just kind of walk us because what happens is in business a lot is

people, not our clients clients for other people they they reach out they say I want

to learn how to grow my business and then you tell them what to do yeah and they don't

actually do anything and therefore nothing gets done.

That happens often.

But there's something great about woodchopping and growing your business, make your dog

epic.com, make your dog epic.com because you actually do stuff and with woodchop you know whether you chop the wood or not I mean how do you know whether you

chop the wood or not well you know if you're chopped a wood or not like this has

not been chopped but that wood over there has been chopped so you know if it was chopped because it's

chopped but you see it all I mean it's it's weird in business though people say I

want to grow a business yeah and they reach out they go through our time show they to the conference and in our conference we teach to actually how to grow a business

But you went to college where they taught business and that was what we teach at our business

Different because this is real wood chopping and our business conference is

is all about real business growth.

How's that different from the business college you?

Well at your business conference you're learning for people who actually own a

business where at business school they've never owned a business so they

have no idea what they're actually talking about and you're just teaching from books or they're

having you do things like when I was in college they had us do things where we had a shoe company and we would compete with Nike and other things that we would have world markets and stuff and it was super pointless and we had to do a SWAT analysis and all the other companies.

They were super pointless.

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