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Welcoming on and saying hello to Chip Patterson, cover three podcasts, CBS Sports,

joining us here on the show.

And before we start, a little heads up.

So Chip tells me, as we're getting set to have our conversation that his kid is sick,

eight month old Cam. He said, okay, let's do it. So Cam, Chip Patterson's eight month old Cam,

you may hear as part of this conversation, but you know what? If you're a parent, you understand

how it goes sometimes. You're flying solo, kid gets sick.

It happens.

That's life.

It is what it is.

But Chip Patterson's a great guest, and we want to still have them on the show.

So, Chip, thanks for being here, my man.

So appreciate it.

And let's just start off with this, Big 12, great year.

How do you think this league and this season for this league

stacks up compared to the SEC and the Big Ten and the other Power Five conferences?

Well, as always, it's difficult when you were comparing a 10-team conference up against the likes of a 14-team conference

because you're going to say, like, all right, well, you know, these other teams have a bottom that doesn't exist

necessarily in the Big 12. And if you just talk about, you know, what is the average team

top to bottom, then it is not even a debate because you had no easy out in the Big 12 this year.

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