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Hello and welcome to Chinese Whispers with me, Cindy Yu.

Every episode, I'll be talking to journalists, experts, and long-time China watchers about the latest in Chinese politics, society and more.

There'll be a smattering of history to catch you up on the background knowledge

and some context as well. How do the Chinese see these issues?

In less than a month's time, Britain may well have a new prime minister

and a different ruling party. Under 14 years of the Conservative Party, the UK's approach to China

has swung from the sycophancy of the golden era to fear and loathing unknowling unknowling

trust, stabilising in the last couple of years to a compete but engage approach, all the while

public opinion on China has hardened, following the Hong Kong protests and the pandemic.

What will a new government bring? Will the managerialism of Kiyosthama changed UK-China relations much from the

managerialism of Rishi Sunak? This is not a hypothetical question, as Labour looks set to win the

election, and the question now is more on how big the conservative losses will be.

I'm joined today by someone who has spent years looking at this issue. Sam Hogg is a political

analyst who has covered China as seen by Westminster for years under the newsletter he founded, Beijing

to Britain. He last came on the podcast to discuss List Trust's views on China. A lot has changed then.

Sam, welcome back to Chinese whispers.

Thank you so much for having me.

Now, can we start with a bit of overview on what Labour has already said about China in the last few years?

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