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Coffee House Shots

Chinese spy named, plus Farage meets Musk

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

After days of speculation online, the alleged Chinese spy has been named as Yang Tegbo. This latest example of Chinese espionage has opened up a number of debates in Westminster, firstly around Labour's push to ‘reset’ its relationship with China, as well as the conversation around the Foreign Influence Registration Scheme – a number of China hawks such as IDS and Tom Tugendhat are pushing for it to be implemented sooner than summer 2025. Can Labour's China policy survive this latest wave of Sino-scepticism?

Also on the podcast, it’s happened: Nigel Farage has met with Elon Musk to discuss his party’s electoral prospects. What’s the readout from their meeting?

Katy Balls speaks to Cindy Yu and James Heale.

Produced by Cindy Yu and Oscar Edmondson.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:09.7

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0:16.5

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots of Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

0:40.2

I'm Katie Balls and I'm joined by Cindy Yu and James Hill. Now, the alleged Chinese spy has been named Yang Tangbo. Cindy, update us with the latest developments in this story that's been bubbling away since last week. So, curiously, it was actually Young's own lawyers who requested that his anonymity be lifted.

0:44.3

And the reason for that is because there was so much speculation about his identity anyway.

0:46.2

It had been revealed by foreign media.

0:51.6

And MP, such as Ian Duncan Smith, were threatening to use parliamentary privilege to name him anyway.

0:56.1

So they voluntarily said, I have nothing to hide, this is who I am, and came out fighting with some fighting words saying that none of these allegations are true,

1:00.6

essentially. At the same time, though, I think what it has done is reignite the debate over the

1:05.6

foreign influence registration scheme that had come into place under the National Security Act

1:10.4

of last year.

1:11.4

So people, you know, classic China hawks like IDS, like Tom Tugina are now kind of back on the

1:16.5

front line fighting that course, talking about how to make China promoting it into the enhanced

1:21.8

tier of that, which would basically mean that anyone in the UK taking orders doing business

1:27.1

with or to basically taking instruction

1:28.8

from Chinese government or government affiliated bodies would have to declare their activity.

1:34.1

So that's a very kind of severe level of registration that you have to do.

1:37.8

And so some business groups have been opposed to that.

1:40.7

But it's fascinating development in terms of reign-igniting the debate on China and actually

1:45.6

makes it very, very tricky for the Labour government because they have put first the scheme

1:49.9

on ice while they figure out what to do about China. So it's another big hot potato for them.

1:54.6

And I think two different debates have been opened up by this, one of which is about Labor

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