China’s tightening grip on cyberspace

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8 • 676 Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2017

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Adam Segal is the Ira A. Lipman Chair in Emerging Technologies and National Security and director of the Digital and Cyberspace Policy Program at the Council on Foreign Relations. You may remember him from an episode of Sinica last year, when he discussed his excellent book The Hacked World Order: How Nations Fight, Trade, Maneuver, and Manipulate in the Digital Age. Adam returns to Sinica to comment on China’s recent cybersecurity law — where it came from, how it changed as it was being drafted, and how it may shape the flow of information in China in the future. Other issues discussed include the bargaining power — or lack thereof — of foreign companies such as Apple when faced with new rules and regulations in China, and related crackdowns on VPNs and other aspects of China’s ironically anti-globalized view of the internet. Recommendations: Jeremy: A three-part BBC documentary, about 30 minutes long, about live streaming in China. It follows the story of a very popular 24-year-old woman who claims to make $450,000 per year by performing and sharing her life with adoring fans online. Watch the first part here. Adam: Flood of Fire, the third book in the Ibis Trilogy by Amitav Ghosh about the Opium War. It brings together characters from India, the U.S., and China, and tells their stories in a sweeping saga. Kaiser: The podcast Binge Mode, with Jason Concepcion and Mallory Rubin, a smart and funny look at every episode of Game of Thrones. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Cynical podcast, a weekly discussion of current affairs in China produced in partnership with SubChina.
0:14.8	SubChina is the best way to stay on top of the latest news from China with a fantastically comprehensive daily newsletter, a smartphone app,
0:22.0	and of course at our website, supChina.com. We've got more and more original content, so be sure to
0:28.0	sign up and visit us regularly for a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a nation
0:33.2	that is reshaping the world. I'm Kaiser Guo, coming to you today from the Seneca South
0:37.5	studio in downtown Durham, North Carolina. Joining me from the Council on Foreign Relations in New York
0:42.8	is Jeremy Goldcorn, editor-in-chief at Sub-China. How are you, Jeremy? I am doing very well indeed
0:48.4	and delighted to be here in person at the Council on Foreign Relations today, because our guest
0:53.9	for this week's podcast is
0:55.4	Adam Siegel.
0:56.7	Listeners will remember that Adam is Maurice R. Greenberg's Senior Fellow for China Studies
1:01.5	and Director of the Program on Digital and Cyberspace Studies at the Council on Foreign
1:05.7	Relations, which is quite a mouthful.
1:08.0	Adam is also the author of the excellent book, Hacked World Order,
1:11.7	How Nations Fight, Trade, Maneuver, and Manipulate in the Digital Age. We spoke to him in May of
1:18.3	last year, as many of you may recall. Adam, welcome back to Seneca. It's my pleasure to be back.
1:23.9	Yes, indeed, Adam, welcome back. Before we plunge in, maybe we should remind listeners that if they're interested in a pretty
1:29.6	in-depth discussion about China's ideas about cyber sovereignty, well, we got into the weeds
1:34.5	with that in our May 2016 show with Adam.
1:37.7	And, of course, we talked a lot about cyber espionage and cyber warfare as well.
1:41.3	So those topics aren't going to be our focus today.
1:43.4	Instead, we're going to be focused on China's new cybersecurity law
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