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The Socialist Program with Brian Becker

China's DeepSeek Develops AI Model Like ChatGPT Without Newest Chips—And It's Free

The Socialist Program with Brian Becker

The Socialist Program

Politics, News

4.7587 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On today's episode, Brian and Prof. Richard Wolff discuss DeepSeek, the newest AI technology developed cheaply by a Chinese company without the most advanced Nvidia chips, causing an almost $600 billion stock crash for Nvidia. What does this indicate about the state of U.S. technology, capitalism, and education?


Professor Richard Wolff is an author & co-founder of the organization Democracy at Work. You can find his work at rdwolff.com.


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0:00.0

The Chinese company Deepseek has developed advanced AI devices cheaply, and without the technology

0:09.2

of big corporations like Navidia, U.S. and Western corporations are panicking.

0:14.3

We need a new system.

0:17.2

We need a new society.

0:19.1

We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago, but is not only realizable, but an imperative necessity. We are excited to have Professor Richard Wolfe join us again for our regular weekly segment

0:55.0

where we talk about the biggest stories related to the working class, the economy,

0:59.4

and the crimes of big business.

1:01.4

I'm your host, Brian Becker.

1:03.4

The Socialist Program brings you content several days a week.

1:06.2

Thanks to the support of our patrons at patreon.com forward slash the socialist program.

1:13.2

We appreciate all of your support and encourage you if you're not yet to become a patron today.

1:18.8

Richard Wolfe is the co-founder of the organization Democracy at Work.

1:22.0

He's the author of many books, including Understanding Capitalism, which is now available at Democracy at Work.Info.

1:29.9

Professor Wolf, welcome back.

1:31.9

Thank you very much. Well, I'm glad to be here.

1:34.5

Thank you, Richard.

1:36.1

Yesterday, Navidia lost $600 billion in a single day because their stocks plunged. And the source of this one-day

1:47.9

catastrophe for that company and for many of the people who held NVIDIA stock was the

1:54.5

announcement by DeepSeek, a Chinese AI company, a startup, that it was doing with artificial intelligence what the big

2:04.5

boys in the U.S. tech sector were doing, but at a very much lower cost. Here's from Wired Magazine.

2:12.8

The app is completely free to use, and DeepSeaks R1 model is powerful enough to be comparable to Open AIs

2:21.7

zero one, quote, reasoning model, except Deep Seek's chatbot is not sequestered behind a $20

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