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The Politics Guys

Chief of Staff, Cohen Sentencing, A Not Nice Photo Op, Huawei Arrest

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5772 Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2018

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Trey is joined this week by Athena King. The two begin by looking at the ongoing developments in the roll of chief of staff. Several individuals, including this week Chris Christie, have turned down the position. Announced just before the show, Mick Mulvaney is named new chief of staff. Trey talks about the long-standing difficulty of the role. Both hosts question what Mulvaney hopes to gain and what we have learned about the White House through the chief of staff turnover. Next Trey and Athena turn to Michael Cohen’s sentencing and the aftermath. The hosts explore Cohen’s statements on TV and President Trump’s Twitter response. It leads to a broader discussion of what comes next. After the Cohen conversation the pair turn to the not so nice photo op. Trey firmly believes it was Trump at his best — taking control and understanding media better than his opponents. Athena thinks it was a mixed bag and the two argue a bit about who was best served by the exchange and if it marks a longer term change for strategy. Finally, Trey and Athena discuss the arrest of Meng Wanzhou, the CFO of Huawei. The talk about China’s retaliation against Canada, the ongoing trade war with China, and if recent changes to policy in China are a Trump win as he suggests. Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the show, go to politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

0:05.8

I'm Trey Orndorff, a political scientist at Oklahoma Christian University, and I'm joined again by Athena King, a political scientist at the University of Virginia State.

0:14.0

Welcome back to the show, Athena.

0:15.4

Hi, thank you. Thank you so much. This is exciting.

0:18.6

It is exciting. I mean, we have a lot of so many things are going on right now in the world and in the United States specifically. And so it's always a lot of fun. And since classes have formally ended for both of us, we were talking about this before the show went on. Both of us were the studious professors and got our grades in early. So we're done

0:41.3

on that front. And then we're heading off to fun, or at least as you were saying, right, your

0:45.5

data set, which is fun for a political scientist, right?

0:49.2

It is. And I'm going to use structural equation modeling. So I'm excited.

0:54.5

So, yeah, I am super dorky right now.

0:56.7

Oh, I understand.

0:57.8

I understand.

0:58.8

Oh, my goodness.

0:59.7

Okay, we won't talk about that.

1:00.8

And later on the podcast, we'll talk about, like, OLS regressions.

1:04.5

And anyway, but me that is, it may, what we are going to start off with listeners this week is we had already planned to talk about the White House chief of staff shift because there has been a lot of agitation this week about who's it going to be going to.

1:22.1

And when we first started taking a look at it, there was even a suggestion that Chris Christie would be the next.

1:28.4

Christie had turned it down. Obviously, after John Kelly had said that he announced that he was

1:33.8

leaving at the end of the year, it seemed that Nick Ayers was going to be kind of the heir apparent,

1:39.2

pun intended. And that did not work out. He actually turned down Donald Trump much of the surprise.

1:46.5

There were other possibilities like Jared and Kushner, but right before we started recording,

1:51.3

what came out was that Donald Trump announced that it would be Mick Mulvaney, who

1:56.8

currently is the director of the Office of Management and Budget, the OMB.

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