Cherry Groce; Gender Recognition Act; Should parents be friends with their children?
Woman's Hour
BBC
4.1 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 29 September 2020
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
On 28 September 1985, Lee Lawrence’s mother Cherry Groce was wrongly shot by police during a raid on her Brixton home. The bullet shattered her spine and she never walked again. Soon after it was reported – wrongly - that Cherry Groce was dead, and two days of rioting took place in Brixton. All this was witnessed by 11-year-old Lee. He became his mother’s carer. After a doctor questioned the cause of his mother’s death in 2011 Lee campaigned fiercely for an inquest, a chance to find out what really happened the day his family’s life was turned upside down. Lee joins Jane tomorrow to talk about his mother, his life as a carer, his fight to get the police to recognise their wrongdoing and his ongoing commitment to challenge racism and fight for justice.
The government has announced it will not go ahead with a change to the Gender Recognition Act which would have allowed trans men and women to self identify rather than go through a medical diagnosis to change their gender. The Equalities and Human Rights Commission has said it was a ‘missed opportunity’ but women's rights groups have applauded the decision as a ‘victory for fairness and common sense’. Jane Garvey hears from two of the women who’ve been campaigning on this issue, Dr Heather Peto who is Co-Chair of Labour’s LGBT+ group and Dr Nicola Williams from the group Fair Play for Women.
The 2020 Woman’s Hour Power List is looking for women who are making a significant difference to the health of our planet. But that power doesn’t have to be held on boards or by leading international organisations. Zoë Randle, the Senior Surveys Officer for Butterfly Conservation, tells Jane about the hugely important role played by hundreds of thousands of volunteers – who are turning their love of nature into hard data that directly influences conservation policy in the UK.
Do you think there should be clearly defined parent/child relationship? Or maybe you think of your family as more of a team or that your child is like a friend. If you’ve been watching the new Netflix series The Duchess which features a mum’s friendship with her child, you may have been asking yourself about your own parenting style. Jane Garvey talks to Dr Holan Liang an NHS Consultant Child & adolescent Psychiatrist in London, a mother and author of the book Inside Out Parenting and Rowan Coleman who’s an author and mother to five children ranging from 19 to twins of 8.
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| 0:34.4 | Hi, this is Jane Garvey, and this is the Women's Out Podcast Tuesday, the 29th of September 2020. |
| 0:41.0 | Good morning, welcome to the programme. |
| 0:43.0 | My guest this morning include Lee Lawrence, who was just 11 when his mother, Cherry Gross, was shot during |
| 0:50.0 | a police raid on his home in Brixton. How has Lee's life panned out? |
| 0:54.7 | Well we'll find out this morning he's one of our guests on the program. He's |
| 0:57.9 | written very movingly about his life experience in a book called The Louder I Will Sing. |
| 1:03.0 | Also today, what do you make of it when someone tells you that their child, their son, |
| 1:08.0 | their daughter is their best friend? |
| 1:10.0 | Do you believe them? Is it ever a good thing to be the best friend of one of your offspring? |
| 1:16.0 | Let us know what you think at BBC Woman's Hour on Twitter and Instagram or of course you can |
| 1:21.0 | email the program whenever you like via the website BBC.co. |
| 1:24.7 | UK forward slash women's hour. Let's start with the Gender Recognition Act which |
| 1:30.4 | isn't changing. Trans men and women will not be allowed to self-identify. |
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