You found your way into the wall, builders show the intersection of faith and culture.

This is the place where we look at different events happening around us

from a biblical, historic, and constitutional perspective.

My name is Tim Barton.

I am the president of wall builders,

and I am joined by my father David Barton who is the founder of Wall Builders.

He's also known as America's historian generally we will have our third Amigo rig green with us.

He was not able to join us. He's having some travel issues, but we are in the middle of a series. If you do get yesterday,

I didn't hear that episode, I would encourage you go back. You go to the Wallbothers website, Wallbothers Live,

or wherever you get your podcast and listen to it. We started with a

TV special covering some of the history Memorial Day and Dad we got to interview

one of our very good friends Brian Birdwell and hear just a little bit

about his story. Yeah Brian's story is amazing he is still very active today

and by what even what you heard yesterday is testimony is he should not be alive and he

should not have been alive the percentage of burns he had over his body compounded with

the degree of those burns made him what should have been a hundred percent death

but he did survive by God's grace and he has gone on to have a very productive life but he has a very sober view of

a memorial day and how important it is and there are so many stories like that and so what you're going to hear us talk about today when we start is an instant in World War II that really should have resulted in Medal of Honor for four individuals.

It did not because these were four individuals that were on the

U.S.S. Dorchester. It was hit by torpedo from the German sub and Congress wanted to

award these four individuals who were so heroic, the Medal of Honor, but you can only do that if you're

under fire. You have to demonstrate this under fire and they weren't under fire at the time. The

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