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Mad in America: Rethinking Mental Health

Chemically Imbalanced: Joanna Moncrieff on the Making and Unmaking of the Serotonin Myth

Mad in America: Rethinking Mental Health

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Anxiety, Mental Health, Benzo, Science, Hearingvoices, Psychology, Antipsychotic, Mentalhealth, Depression, Panicattack, Psychosis, Medicine, Health, Health & Fitness, Psychiatry, Ssri, Antidepressant

4.8201 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to this Mad in America podcast. My name is Robert Whitaker, and I'm happy today to have the pleasure of speaking with Joanna Moncrieff.

Dr. Moncrieff is a psychiatrist who works in the National Health Service in the United Kingdom. She is a Professor of Critical and Social Psychiatry at University College, London.

In 1990 she co-founded the Critical Psychiatry Network, which today has about 400 psychiatrist members, about two-thirds of whom are in the United Kingdom. From my perspective, the Critical Psychiatry Network has been at the forefront of making a broad critique of the disease model of care. Without this network, I don't think that critique would be anywhere near as prominent or as sophisticated as it is today.

Dr. Moncrieff is a prolific researcher and writer. Her books include De-Medicalizing Misery, The Bitterest Pills: The Troubling Story of Antipsychotic Drugs, and The Myth of the Chemical Cure.

Her latest book is titled Chemically Imbalanced: The Making and Unmaking of the Serotonin Myth. This book in many ways is a follow-up to her 2022 paper which looked at the serotonin story and concluded that there was no good evidence that a serotonergic deficiency was a primary cause of depression. It caused quite a furor within the media and in psychiatry.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Madden America Podcast, your source for science, psychiatry, and social justice.

0:14.4

Hello and welcome to this Madden America podcast. My name is Robert Whitaker, and I'm happy today to have the pleasure of speaking with Joanna Moncrief.

0:22.6

Now, I think most of Mad in America listeners and readers know Dr. Moncrief pretty well and know her work pretty well,

0:29.6

but I'd still like to give her a brief proper introduction.

0:32.6

Dr. Moncrief is a psychiatrist who works in the National Health Service.

0:36.6

I think you're a consultant to the National Health Service in the United Kingdom,

0:40.3

and she's professor of critical and social psychiatry at University College London.

0:44.3

In 1990, she co-founded what is known as the Critical Psychiatry Network,

0:49.3

which today I think has about 400 psychiatrists who are members,

0:52.3

about two-thirds of whom are in the United Kingdom.

0:55.7

From my perspective, the critical psychiatry network has been at the forefront of making a

1:01.9

broad critique of the disease model of care. And without this network, I don't think that

1:07.5

critique would be anywhere near as prominent or as sophisticated as it is today.

1:13.0

Dr. Moncrief is a prolific researcher and writer. Her books include de-medicalizing misery,

1:18.9

the bitterest pills, the troubling story of antipsychotics, the myth of the chemical cure,

1:24.3

and her latest book is titled Chemically Imbalance, The Making and Unmaking of the Serotonin Myth.

1:30.8

Now, this book in many ways is a follow-up to her 2022 paper, which looked at the serotonin story and concluded that there was no good evidence that assertionergic deficiency was a primary cause of depression, and I have to say,

1:44.9

it caused quite the furor within the media and the response from psychiatry.

1:51.5

So, Joanna, it's such a pleasure to have you here, and thanks for being here.

1:55.4

Thank you for having me, Bob.

1:56.8

So what I'd like to do, we will be talking about your book, but I like, and I know our listeners would like to know, basically the path that you took to become a critical psychiatrist.

2:06.8

And I believe you were in medical school in the late 1980s.

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