This is The Run Through.

I'm Nicole Phelps.

And I'm Mark Hall Gates.

Today on the show, we are talking to Chaminah Kamali.

Chimina joined Chloe as creative director in October of last year.

And this role is her third time working at Chloe, which is pretty remarkable.

She was an intern, then a junior designer, and she was first there 20 years ago.

Yes, and from being worn by Sienna Miller to VP Kamala Harris,

I think we can safely say that Chloe is having a moment, thanks to her. And we talked about the success of her first show, how she stays grounded throughout the immense success that

she's enjoying, what we can expect from the next show, and of course, that four-letter word,

Boho. I always like going back to Gabby Aguillon, the founder of Chloe, because

so unique in the history of French fashion, right? It's a story of a lot of men launching

couture brands. A lot of men. I mean, I think that's what's really interesting. She's not perhaps

given the accolades and recognition that she deserves for founding that house in the 50s,

but also being a woman founding a fashion house, which was really about meeting the needs of women

in the post-war world. It wasn't about evening gowns and furs and couture. It was really about

a very grounded, real way of thinking how women might

want to dress. And you can see that correlation between then and the Chloe that Shemina's

envisaging for today, it really kind of makes sense. In fact, there was an exhibition of Chloe

collections over the decades at the Jewish Museum in New York earlier this year.

And one thing the curator pointed out is that there's not a lot of Chloe from those very early

years. And I think it's because, as has been true over the decades with a lot of the designers

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