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The Lawfare Podcast

Chatter: Shane Harris Wants to Believe

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2023

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.

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This is chatter. I'm Scott Ar Anderson. This week, chatter co-host and Washington Post

1:10.2

National Security reporter Shane Harris on his longstanding coverage of unidentified

1:14.3

aerial phenomena, better known as UFOs. The public has often a very exaggerated and

1:22.3

inflated view of what the intelligence community is capable of doing and what it is capable

1:27.2

of keeping secret and that actually applies in space to the UFO story. I had no assumptions

1:37.3

about the intelligence community when I started covering it because I knew practically

1:40.5

nothing about it. I knew what I'd seen in movies, I knew what I'd seen in books, I knew

1:45.0

those things were almost certainly not accurate. I'm always trying to answer questions. I

1:52.4

want to put labels on things. I find this story to be unique in what I cover and that I

1:58.5

am perfectly happy not knowing and just sort of being amazed.

2:09.5

Shane Harris, welcome to chatter, not for the first time. It's so good to have you with

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us today on the other side of the microphone, so to speak. That's my line, Scott.

2:17.8

You should be on the one saying, welcome. Well, I appreciate you letting me borrow it for

2:23.3

this conversation that I'm excited to have with you. So we are today going to talk about

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