Chatter Marks EP 62 Alaska history from the bottom up with Ian Hartman

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🗓️ 5 May 2023

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Historian Ian Hartman is an Associate Professor and Department Chair at the University of Alaska Anchorage. He teaches history from the bottom up, meaning he looks for how regular, working class people have been agents of change throughout history. This is the opposite of how so much of history has been recorded, which has looked at it through the perspective of The Great Man Theory. The Great Man Theory, as it relates to history, looks at leaders and other perceived great men as heroes and the sole agents of change. Ian points to the Civil Rights movement and the general cultural upheavals of the 1960s and 1970s for shifting our understanding of history. Ian is also a public historian known, most recently, for his work on the history of the Alaska Railroad and a book he co-authored with Alaska public historian David Reamer about the history of the black experience in Alaska. The book, Black Lives in Alaska: A History of African Americans in the Far Northwest, details how Black men and women have participated in Alaska's politics and culture since before statehood. How Black history in Alaska is almost by default a history of the bottom up. It’s a history that involves racial discrimination, but also involves people mobilizing themselves in the face of that discrimination. How they were, and are, agents who are capable of forging social movements and solidarity. They rose up and involved themselves in the workings of the state. His work on the Alaska Railroad will soon be on display — along with the work of other experts — at an Anchorage Museum exhibition titled All Aboard: The Alaska Railroad Centennial. The exhibition highlights crucial moments, technological innovations and human stories connected to the railroad and its operations in Alaska. An interesting fact about the people who originally worked on the Alaska Railroad is that the majority of them came from Alaska. They were already in the state working the Klondike Gold Rush and, when that ended, workers — who were generally young, single men — found more work helping to construct the railroad.

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0:00.0	The
0:11.6	Alaska has like virtually all of the United States, some really shameful episodes in its history.
0:19.2	And so I think just being kind of upfront about that and grappling with, you know, histories of
0:25.4	of racial oppression and Native dispossession and all of that other, you know, those
0:30.4	thorny topics, we've got to do, right? Any honest historian has to think, recognize the role that
0:37.5	that racism, white supremacy, discrimination has played in its history. But that's part of the story
0:45.4	only. You know, the other part of the story is one of Black self-activity of agency, again,
0:54.4	to go back to that phrase, history from the bottom up. I mean, I think central to the idea of
1:00.0	history from the bottom up is that people have their own agency. They're not simply acted upon
1:04.8	by these, you know, really large and personal forces. They're agents in the making of their own
1:09.9	history. And so when it comes to African-Americans in Alaska, you know, that history has been their
1:16.3	involvement in business, their involvement in politics, culture, all of the above. And so on the
1:22.9	one hand, we recognize, you know, histories of racial discrimination. And on the other hand,
1:29.0	we also recognize that people are not just immobilized in the face of discrimination. They're in
1:35.2	fact agents who are very capable of forging social movements, solidarity. They're people who are
1:43.2	going to rise up and involve themselves in the workings of the state. And so I think that that's
1:49.6	really important for people to recognize the ways in which history is complex. It isn't simply
1:55.6	sort of a narrative of victimhood. It's a narrative of self-activity. And to me, again, you know,
2:01.9	that's what history from the bottom up should really look at. It should recognize those moments
2:08.0	of agency. That was historian Ian Hartman. He's an associate professor and department chair
2:15.2	at the University of Alaska Anchorage. He teaches history from the bottom up, meaning he looks
2:21.6	for how regular working class people have been agents of change throughout history. This is the
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