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This week's episode of Cruise Radio Rewind sitting down with a former cruise line executive, Art Sabarski.

He was with Norwegian Cruise Line, Celebrity Cruises, and Crystal Cruises.

Kind of doing some inside baseball talk on this one

and a little behind the scenes look of what the cruise line is like behind the curtain. We just

taped this about an hour ago in the observation lounge on the top deck of Norwegian Encore.

That's where we are right now, sailing a three-night inaugural.

So there was a little bit of noise in the background, so I do apologize in advance.

We were by a crew door where they were taking laundry and food in and out. And that was just

too into the interview to move and disrupt the flow. So here's the interview with Art Sabarski.

I hope you enjoy it.

So my guest today is no stranger to cruise radio. In fact, the last time he was on the show,

the show is the highest downloaded episode I've done. I've been busting my ass for 10 years doing

this. You come on, make an appearance, and just blow all of my stats out of the

water, man. Art Zabarski, how are you? I'm great. How are you? Good, man. That's a surprising stat, but I appreciate it. I'm flattered by it. It still amazes me. So we're on Norwegian Encore right now. We're up here in the observation lounge, which is the, this spot, I guess, would be, it's an observation lounge, it's pretty much unrestricted

views throughout the whole half of the ship or the front quarter of the ship. Good for Alaska.

I guess we'll just start off by talking about Encore here. What have been your impression so far?

I think it's a beautiful ship. I thought this class of ship was beautiful from day one when they first brought it out.

And all they've managed to do in the years since the very first in the ship are four of them now,

they've improved it. Yeah. I don't think there's any area where they've gone backwards,

whether it be food, whether it be entertainment, whether it be activities, whether it be the layout, the decor of the ship, I think they continue to do a forward-looking job with it.

One thing I noticed is they've axed Spice H2O on this ship. The laser tag courses there now. Would that be like a revenue move? Do you think why someone

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