It's the Media Buzz Meter with Howard Kurtz.

This is the Media BuzzMeter podcast, and 99% of the pundits who talk about the Epstein files

have never had any contact with Jeffrey Epstein.

Unlike my guests, let's bring in Charlie Gasparino, senior correspondent Fox Business

Network, also columnist for the New York Post, who famously talked to Epstein before his death.

And when Malaya Trump made that speech, sort of stunning the entire world, six-minute live

speech from the White House, let's take a listen to some of that.

His images and stories are completely false. I'm not a witness or a name witness

in connection with any of Epstein's crimes. My name has never appeared in court documents,

depositions, victim statements, or FBI in

interviews surrounding the Epstein matter. I have never had any knowledge of Epstein abuse of his

victims. I was never involved in any capacity. I was not a participant, was never on

Epstein's plane, and never visited his private island.

Charlie, does it sound to you... I have never been legally accused or convinced of a crime.

Charlie, does it sound to you like she, the first lady, is trying to get ahead of something

that may come out about her and the late pedophile?

You know, that was one sort of impulse that I had.

The other impulse was that, because I see this on social media media just how much abuse the Trump's take regarding

Epstein on social media. I mean, I every day, if I write something about Trump or say something

positive about it, I get hit with and I think it's, it's troll forms, like massive attacks

about Donald Trump being a pedophile and part of Epstein's,

you know, creepy, perverted circle of friends where that's not the case. And I think the first

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