I was gambling in Havana.

I took a little risk.

Said lawyers, guns and money. dead get me out of this.

Hi, welcome everybody to another episode of the Matt Jones podcast.

I believe we're on 83. episode of the Matt Jones podcast.

I believe we're on 83, but every time I give the number

it's wrong.

So whatever, the last one was, this one is the one right after that.

I've taken about a week and a half off of these. I may do one more this week and then we'll do some next week. I've been here in New York where it's hot, but opening up a little bit and I'm very happy to be joined by, you know, I remember this guy when nobody knew who he was, when he was just like, you know, he was just Charlie from the block and now he is one of the like progressive leaders in America Charles Booker Charles how are you

Man, you know I love you man. It's good to be with you brother.

Good. By the way, a little KSR question before we get everything else.

Somebody called in and asked if anybody ever called you Chuck.

Have you ever go by Chuck in your life at all?

Yeah, yeah, some people call me Chuck.

That was my nickname through muscle college and all my family calls me,

CJ Charles Jr. Okay, right well I call you Charles and and I got a

ton of stuff I want to ask you but let me just start with this I want to start with the

question I think most the people listening to this would initially ask and for those of you

don't know I assume all of you do. Charles Ran, Senate for Senate lost by 16,000 votes in the primary

to Amy McGrath who's now going to be going against Mitch McConnell, one of the all-time best comebacks in the history of American politics, nearly pulled it off. On a personal level, what's this last week and a half been like since you got the news?

I know two weeks I guess now since you got the news.

Yeah, you know, it's been the full spectrum of emotion.

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