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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Charlamagne tha God Has Some Advice for Harris and the Democrats

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

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🗓️ 28 October 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In these final days of the Presidential campaign, Vice-President Kamala Harris has been getting in front of voters as much as she can. Given the polls showing shaky support among Black men, one man she absolutely had to talk to was Lenard McKelvey, much better known as Charlamagne tha God. As a co-host of the syndicated “Breakfast Club” morning radio show, Charlamagne has interviewed Presidential candidates such as Harris, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden, as well as New York City’s embattled Mayor Eric Adams and many more. He tells David Remnick that he received death threats just for speaking with Harris—“legitimate threats, not . . . somebody talking crazy on social media. That’s just me having a conversation with her about the state of our society. So imagine what she actually gets.” Charlamagne believes firmly that the narrative of Harris losing Black support is overstated, or a polling fiction, but he agrees that the Democrats have a messaging problem. The author of a book titled “Get Honest or Die Lying,” Charlamagne says that the Party has shied away from widespread concerns about immigration and the economy, to its detriment. “I just want to see more honesty from Democrats. Like I always say, Republicans are more sincere about their lies than Democrats are about their truth!”


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0:00.0

You're listening to the political scene. I'm David Remnick. Early each week, we bring you a conversation from our episode of the New Yorker Radio Hour.

0:16.0

In these final days of the presidential campaign,

0:19.0

Vice President Harris has been getting in front of voters as much as she possibly count.

0:24.5

And not just on 60 Minutes and Fox News.

0:27.3

She's talked to Howard Stern.

0:28.6

She's been considering Joe Rogin's podcast, all shows that are heavily weighted toward male listeners and

0:35.0

given the polls showing shaky support among black men one guy she

0:40.0

absolutely had to talk to was Leonard McElvy much better known as

0:44.7

Charlemagne the God.

0:47.7

You guys really are like the hip-hop early morning, late night.

0:50.4

I am blessed black and highly fay but happy to be here man another day to serve our beautiful listeners

0:55.1

Absolutely

0:57.1

Charlemagne co-host the breakfast club which is syndicated on iHeart radio

1:01.2

He's interviewed political figures from Harris, Hillary Clinton, and

1:04.8

Joe Biden to Lara Trump, who's the co-chair of the RNC. Breakfast Club recorded the

1:10.7

interview with Kamala Harris as a live town hall conversation and I've got to admit it I couldn't help expressing a little jealousy.

1:22.0

So I'm coming to you, my feelings are hurt as I told you outside.

1:27.0

Kamala Harris didn't want to talk to the New Yorker.

1:30.0

We just did a huge profile of her by Evan Osnows. We've been trying like hell to cover her thoroughly.

1:35.6

And she's obviously got another strategy. She spoke to you and she spoke to Fox.

1:40.9

She spoke to any number of people. What's in

1:42.8

Kamla Harris's mind? What's her media strategy going down the

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