Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of the Black Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime.

Welcome back season two, All the Smoke from our beautiful New York location. Excited about today's guest.

Someone I really look up to in this space, one of the strongest black voices to me in the country, Charlotte Manning.

Matt, the God. Thank you bro. Thank you for having me.

I love all the smoke. I love when I get this opportunity to actually be on shows that I actually

listen to and fuck with. That's how we start on the right this club.

That's how we start on the right. We'll get into how we really working together later.

But let's just let's get into it man. The climate of America is on the brink of changing.

I think it's finally reared its naked head and people are starting to realize that there's some real issues here.

What did you just thought of where we're at as a society right now?

I think wherever we're at it's no going back. I'm wanting them to do the first voted in 08 when President Obama

in the White House and I'm beyond. I'm only voting him because he was black.

He was black and he was cool. He had the culture, you know. But I think right now a lot of us are more politically sophisticated.

And we understand that you have to have to write people and office to make certain things happen.

You know, and I think those roles call it glasses that we all wore when Barack was in the White House.

That's over. I don't care if it's Joe Biden and Senator Harris who else is in there.

We're not just going to be in love with them because they're in there.

You know what I mean? That's not where the change comes. The change comes is continuing to push

once they get in the White House. I think wherever we're at in this country there's no going back

because both sides have been exposed. We've been to it's not all sweet.

And not a other side definitely knows it's not all sweet. But then we also know that there's a whole other side fighting it hard.

That's the only thing that's behind what you're talking about.

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