This is Rachel goes rogue.

Welcome back to another episode of Rachel goes rogue.

Welcome back to another episode of Rachel Goes Rogue with your host Rachel Savannah Lebis.

Today I am so excited to be joined by an iconic guest.

You may know her from The Hills or I'm a Celebrity

Get Me Out of Here or Marriage Boot Camp or Celebrity Big Brother.

You might know her from her music.

You may even know her as one half of Spidey.

Wherever it's from, you absolutely know the name Heidi Pratt.

One of the most iconic reality TV personalities, turned wife and mother

joins me today to talk about her journey navigating her way through the reality TV space

and coming out the other end.

Heidi I'm so excited to have you on Rachel goes rogue. It's good to see your face.

Thank you, you too.

Thanks. So I've been reading your bio and you've not only done the hills but you were also on I'm a

celebrity get me out of here and marriage boot camp and celebrity big brother?

Yes.

Did you ever expect for yourself to be on so many reality TV shows?

Was this the life that you pictured for yourself when you were growing up?

Yes, I think growing up I was always like I want to be famous and successful and you know I used to

were like a fake fur coat with big sunglasses but I grew up in a really

small town in Colorado and you know my mom was always very encouraging I was like you can do

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