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🗓️ 11 December 2020
⏱️ 31 minutes
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0:00.0 | Last year, when Tolisha Lee called 2-on-1, so that she and her son could get help with housing or shelter, |
0:06.0 | the operator told her to go and do an assessment so that she could get into the coordinated entry system, |
0:12.0 | or CES, as she calls it. |
0:15.0 | Okay. So tomorrow you can go at 1 p.m. at the Henry Robinson Multiservice Center to do an assessment for the CES program. |
0:25.0 | Tolisha did that. She sat down with a social worker and answered some questions and was entered into the system, |
0:31.0 | but she didn't end up getting any help with housing. |
0:34.0 | I think I just feel like somebody they forgot about me. They forgot about me and my son. |
0:40.0 | When Tolisha entered that system, she was essentially being put on a big long list with a bunch of other homeless people. |
0:48.0 | But what she didn't realize and what I didn't know at the time was that this list, it wasn't just a first-come, first-serve queue. |
0:57.0 | It was a list of all the homeless people in Alameda County ranked according to need. |
1:03.0 | The people at the top were considered the most in need of housing, and they were prioritized first for help. |
1:11.0 | I don't think it's hyperbolic to say that people may actually live or die according to where they end up on this list. |
1:18.0 | Homelessness is lethal. A study in Los Angeles in the early 2000s found that the average age of death for a homeless person was 48 years old, |
1:28.0 | and that life expectancy is about 36% shorter overall. |
1:33.0 | Housing equals more years of life, and being at the top of the list is a path to housing. |
1:40.0 | I want to know why as a single mom struggling with her mental health and living in a car with her kid, |
1:46.0 | Tolisha wasn't high enough on the list to get help. |
1:50.0 | Was she close or far? |
1:53.0 | And if this is a ranking of needs, how are they determining whose need is the greatest? |
2:00.0 | To find the answers to these questions, I'm going to take you deep inside of this bureaucracy. |
2:05.0 | Like Russian nesting dolls, there's layers to this thing. |
2:09.0 | But I promise we are going to solve the mystery of where Tolisha ended up on this list and why it fails so many people. |
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