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Hey guys and welcome back to another week of Cas chaos. Angela, welcome to casual chaos. Thank you. Thank you. How are you? No problem. I'm good. How are you? Do you want me to say Angela? Just let it flow. Like people ask too, like should I say Angela or Black China? But if everybody keeps saying, hey, it's Black China, you know.

The world knows you as Black China, but given your name is Angela White, when did you start going by Black China?

2007. No, 2006.

And how did that come about?

It came about because I was an exotic dancer.

I was a scripper.

And then do you like that that is a part of you?

Or do you wish at some points you can drop that?

No, I love it.

You got to embrace it, right?

Absolutely love it because all of these things make me, you feel me and like, come on,

we all have a stripper friend, or if you don't know she's a stripper or he's a stripper,

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