Similar to your career.

Well, yeah, he's had a lot more. He was actually trying to write a hit song, you know, kind of accidentally backed into one. I feel like this, we're already recording, so I feel like we don't even have to do like a formal introduction. We can just kind of dive into it. Yeah, I haven't seen you since we did that festival in California. Yes. Which was really cool, and it kind of stinks of not having that anymore. Yeah, it was beautiful.

It was in Monterey. Monoray, yeah, what a spot. Yeah. I feel like that's happening more and more of these festivals are like, they pop up and then they go away. Yeah, you know, it's a gold rush and then, you know. Yep. That was a good one though. good one though. The line up on that one was really really really cool and just

i like uh i'm sure she'll we can tell you too it was just my kind of music our kind of music

and uh well you play a lot of festivals do you like playing festivals over like your own show

or opening up for just one person you know where i'm at right now, festivals are fun because if the slot's good, you know,

sometimes these three o'clock in afternoon slots are a little brutal, but, but honestly,

that's where you find your hardcore music fans anyway, you know.

If I'm on, you know, right before a huge, like, Radio Country Act, sometimes they're just so excited to see whoever that is that, you know, that could be glazing over what's right, you know, a couple people before.

So sometimes those early slots are good.

But, I mean, I mean, I love playing my own shows.

I think any, any artists would tell you that.

I mean, there's nothing better than your fans showing up to your show and knowing your songs.

And that's the big, that's the thing that keeps you going. Like sometimes when a lot of people in this town can tell you no and different things, things you know when you go out on the road and

and people talk to you and tell you how they how you impact them it's like all right man you know

still doing it i got to do this you know put some fuel in the tank for sure yeah it just

recharges you every single time it don't even take much man just one person at the merch booth

can really just change your whole, give you

a whole other year. And that's cool to hear because I think a lot of fans would assume, or maybe

not a lot of, but some fans would assume like, oh, I'm bothering an artist by telling them my story.

Yeah. Well, sometimes the stories can be long. You know, when I have, you know, if I got 50 people to talk to you, you know, tell me about your uncle that I remind you of, you know, and how y'all used to go fishing down on Dale Halle. You know, it's like, all right, buddy, you know, I appreciate it. So some stories recharge more than others, it sounds like. Yeah, you know, and, and, and, uh, I, I kind of tribute to, uh, to what I, you know, when I was, uh, when I was, uh, when I was a kid, uh, idolizing guys like Hank Williams, Jr. and, and, uh, some of those old dudes, Merle Haggard, and they would have, uh, fan mail accounts where you could mail them stuff, you know, and, uh, and every now and then, they would mail you something back now. It never happened to me, but I always heard stories. So nowadays, you just get it directly to your phone. Yeah. I think fan mail is a better way to do it. Now it seems like, I mean, that's probably a lost art. And now it's just people get upset if you don't. You comment back on somebody's, you know, it's all more complicated.

Yeah.

...