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Changing gender: A landmark judgement in the Keira Bell case

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🗓️ 2 December 2020

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Yesterday at the High Court, a judgement was passed that could have major implications for the treatment of children at gender identity clinics.


We speak to two people with very different perspectives: Keira Bell, the 23-year-old who detransitioned and is at the centre of the case; and the mother of a young transgender man, who thinks the court made the wrong decision.


Guests:

  • Sian Griffiths, education and families editor, The Sunday Times.
  • Keira Bell, one of the people at the centre of the High Court decision.
  • Jo, the parent of a young transgender man who was also treated at the Tavistock clinic.

 

Host: Manveen Rana.


Clips: Sky News.


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0:00.0

It's been described as a historic judgment.

0:07.0

Yesterday, as three senior judges conferred at the High Court in London,

0:12.0

families all over the country waited.

0:16.4

The judgment they passed will have an enormous impact on children who want to change

0:21.2

their gender.

0:28.0

At the heart of this case is 23 year old Kiribel. She was 16 when she was prescribed puberty blockers

0:32.0

after she decided to transition from being a girl to being a boy.

0:37.0

It was a decision she later regretted.

0:39.5

I definitely think there needs to be a stop to prescribing PV blockers to minors under 18.

0:46.0

It's so obvious you can't give a kid five appointments and then send them off to the

0:52.0

under chronologist.

0:52.8

It's crazy.

0:53.8

Kira Bell took the clinic where she was treated to court

0:57.8

because she believes she was too young to know what she was agreeing to

1:02.3

when she underwent treatment.

1:04.0

But there are others who believe puberty blockers can help some teenagers.

1:09.0

They may even save lives.

1:11.0

Going through puberty was really triggering self-harm.

1:14.6

I wanted him to access gender specialists.

1:17.8

You're listening to stories of our times

1:20.0

from the Times and the Sunday Times.

1:22.4

I'm Manvee Rana.

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