Levene.

For attorney Edward Brass, the decades have not diminished how ominous it was to meet with clients at the

Salt Lake County Jail that no longer exists. The old jail was in the basement

adjacent to the courthouse and it was difficult to get in and out of.

With two underground entry points, unreliable fluorescent lighting, and a sour stench that he can still summon.

It was as uninviting as the hulking metal doors that block the entrances.

The very heavy doors and if one of the doors was left a jar you could get stuck in an elevator or stuck in a visiting area for a long time.

Ed was part of the defense team hired by Michael Moore's father just days after Michael confessed to

killing Jordan Rasmussen and Buddy Booth.

I've been a lawyer about five years at this point, so it was the guy that sort of did all the dirty

work.

One more thing you should know about Ed. He's my husband. We weren't married in

1982. In fact, we wouldn't meet for another decade. When I first started looking

into this story, I had no idea my husband was involved.

Normally, in my work as a daily journalist, this connection, also known as a conflict of interest,

would have meant the end of my involvement. But the team discussed it at length and we decided that

telling this story in a podcast that's focused on a decades-long struggle with

forgiveness and healing was a different situation.

Also, Ed is the only surviving member of Michael Moore's defense team and he can give us

information and perspective that nobody else can.

So we decided on some rules, including sharing all of this with our audience,

and producer Andrea Smarten conducted our first interview with Ed.

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