You can decide here and now whether or not you want to let this stuff go or not.

If you do or not, that's up to you.

It's like it's no skin off my back, but you want to I'm here for you and I'll help you and then you know we can

make some progress but as long as you keep these defenses up we're not going to be able to

get anywhere now that can sound really confrontational but again it's really only for folks that can

tolerate that level of hearing that truth kind of fed back to them.

And so like Davenle called it the iron fist in the velvet glove

that it is a tough approach but it is done out of care and concern for the person because especially

with folks where we see that these defenses have really wrecked havoc on their life you know they might be in middle age and you know it's

trashed all their relationships the way that they relate to people, you know, and

it's caused so many problems and so it's like sink or swim at this point.

Like let's get to the bottom of this and resolve it now and not waste another 5, 10, 20 years doing this.

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Your session begins now with Dr. Ann Kelly and Sue Marriott.

Hey everyone welcome back to therapist and censored. This is Anne. In today's episode

Sue and I together have a great conversation with two excellent therapists, Margaret Martin and

Deb Polack and they help us understand therapeutic approaches that fall under the

umbrella of experiential dynamic therapy or EDT. So I won't dive into a lot of details here because you're

going to learn along with Sue and I during our conversation. But before we jump in, I wanted

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