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the author Mary Roach. Her new book is Replaceable You, Adventures in Human Anatomy, all the body parts

that are replaceable and how to think about them, how to bear up under their challenge. And in this part, we talk about xenotransplanting.

That's using organs of non-humans, such as a pig,

to replace an organ that no longer functions for a human.

Zenotransplanting.

Here's what we know right now.

Mary keeps up with the latest medical information.

Mary Roach, replaceable you, much more of this tonight.

With transplanting pig organs?

With xenotransplantation in America.

Oh, well, it's just very new.

Right now we have, there are fewer than 10, I believe, kidney and heart trans, xenotransplants.

This month, the trial, eGenesis, that's a pig kidney trial underway, just starting either this month or last month.

So it's very new.

It's not so much political as so far most of the patients have only made it a couple of months.

There's one gentleman who's, I think, had a kidney for nine months.

That's kind of the longest duration. So we'll have to, you know,

see how it goes with the people in the trial that just started.

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