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CHAD DAYBELL TRIAL: Dr John breaks down Pathologist Expert Witness, plus Joe Murray on cross exam

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Hidden True Crime

Society & Culture, Documentary, News, True Crime, News Commentary

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Defense calls Pathologist as an expert witness as well as Emma Daybell Murray's husband Joe Murray. Join Hidden True Crime as we follow Chad Daybell's trial from beginning to end. Host Lauren Matthias is in the courtroom daily, doing lunch lives on YouTube and summarizing each day and week right here on Hidden: A True Crime Podcast. Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet. What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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First of all, let me just say about the pathologist

0:32.0

that she didn't really help the defense's case in the sense that her conclusion, after going through this whole spiel, her conclusion essentially was that the cause of death is indeterminate.

0:44.0

She's not saying that Tammy died of natural causes, which is what the defense is trying to prove.

0:50.0

She's just saying it's indeterminate.

0:52.0

So I guess if you're trying to introduce a shred of doubt

0:55.1

that indeterminate is better than murdered,

0:57.4

you know, prior, he's trying to pull on that strand

1:00.6

that says, well, you know, this may not have been murdered, this may have just been

1:03.7

something else. Of course, she couldn't really explain the bruises. She actually helped the prosecution

1:10.5

when she said that when she talked about how much weight would be necessary to kind of crush someone's lungs, essentially, to asphyxiate them, and which opened the door for the prosecution to say,

1:22.7

oh, so you think there could have been multiple people,

1:25.0

meaning Alex Cox and Chad Day Bell.

1:29.1

That's what I thought too.

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