'CESSPOOL PRINCESS' Had 2 Bottles of Wine & DRUGS When Shoved Voice Coach, 87, to her Death, Says Defense
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🗓️ 22 June 2023
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
The socialite charged with shoving an elderly woman to her death may be getting a plea deal.
Lauren Pazienza's attorney says the woman couldn’t possess the intent to commit the crime. Defense attorney Arthur Aidala says his client was using prescription drugs, and had imbibed up to two bottles of wine, and marijuana at the time.
The victim, 87-year-old Broadway singing coach Barbara Maier Gustern, fell and hit her head, after being hit by Pazienza. She was conscious directly after the incident, but fell into unconsciousness and died from her injuries five days later.
Pazienza has already turned down two plea deals from prosecutors. If convicted, Pazienza faces up to 25 years behind bars. Her next court date is July 20.
Joining Nancy Grace Today:
- AJ Maier Gustern - Grandson of Victim
- James Shelnutt – Attorney – The Shelnutt Law Firm, P.C.; 27-year Atlanta Metro Area Major Case Detective and Former S.W.A.T. Officer; Twitter: @ShelnuttLawFirm
- Dr. Angela Arnold – Psychiatrist, Atlanta GA.; Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women, Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Obstetrics and Gynecology: Emory University; Former Medical Director of The Psychiatric Ob-Gyn Clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital; Voted My Buckhead’s Best Psychiatric Practice of 2022
- Joseph Giacalone - Former NYPD Sergeant SDS and Author: “ The Cold Case Handbook” and “The Criminal Investigative Function: A Guide for New Investigators 4th Edition;" Twitter: @JoeGiacalone
- Dr. Michael Baden– Former Chief Medical Examiner of New York City and past Co-Director of the New York State Police Medico-Legal Investigations Unit- Author: “American Autopsy”
- Tony DeStefano – Special Writer, Newsday; Author: “The Deadly Dob: Vito Genovese” and “Mafia Boss;” Twitter: @TonyNewsDay, Instagram: @Tony.Destefano.Newsday
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| 0:00.0 | The So-called Cess Poole Princess, 27 year old Lauren Pazienza. |
| 0:22.1 | I don't know if you remember her name because I'll never forget it. |
| 0:26.6 | Accused of shoving an 87 year old beloved voice coach, a voice teacher to the sidewalk. |
| 0:36.8 | She died. |
| 0:38.6 | Now has a defense. |
| 0:41.2 | And the defense is, oh she didn't know what she was doing. |
| 0:45.2 | She had two bottles of wine, drugs, and a ton of weed. |
| 0:50.0 | That's the defense. |
| 0:53.0 | This while her defense lawyer, high profile lawyer, author, idolat climbs. |
| 0:58.4 | His client is overcharged. |
| 1:02.1 | You know what I said to that? |
| 1:03.1 | Now this is a technical legal term. |
| 1:04.8 | BS. |
| 1:05.8 | BS. |
| 1:06.8 | I mean it's e-grey. |
| 1:08.8 | So this is crime stories. |
| 1:10.0 | Thanks for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series XM 111. |
| 1:15.4 | The goal of saying. |
| 1:19.2 | She's innocent. |
| 1:20.2 | She's not guilty because she had two bottles of wine, drugs, and a quote, ton of weed. |
| 1:28.2 | Take a listen to our friends at Crime Online. |
| 1:31.4 | The attorney for New York City's sidewalk, shovel at Lauren Pazienza claims the spoiled |
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