From the Center for European Reform, this is the CERR podcast.

Hello and welcome to another episode of the CER podcast.

My name is Sophia Bash, I'm a research fellow here at the Center for European Reform,

and I am talking to Camino Matera

Martinez, also a research fellow for Justice in Home Affairs and the CEO's representative

in Brussels. We are going to talk about how to plug the UK into European security cooperation

after Brexit. And when we talk about security cooperation, concretely what we mean is

countries working together to counter terrorism and cross-border crime. And I want to ask

Kabilo about two organizations or mechanisms that the EU has built for that purpose, Europol, first

and second law enforcement databases, and to ask

her specifically how the UK can stay connected to these even after Brexit.

So let's start first with Europol.

Very straightforward, Camino.

Can you explain to us what Europol is and what it does?

Yes, Europol is the European Union's police agency.

And movies might have you think that they have very pretty police officers like Catherine

Seta-John's in OCE-12.

But that is not the case, unfortunately.

It doesn't really have operational powers as such, so there are no European in Oceans 12. But that is not the case, unfortunately.

It doesn't really have operational powers as such.

So there are no European Union policemen going around.

But it basically oversees, sorry, international investigations and coordinates joint operations between European Union countries

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