Yo, technology.

What is it all about?

This is what happens when you take algorithms that are predicting what will work on you.

They're not predicting what you want.

They're predicting what you can't help but watch.

So the problem is this is making the world go crazy and mess.

We call this human downgrading.

It's the social climate change of culture.

Hello. mass. We call this human downgrading. It's the social climate change of culture. Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley. Thank you for tuning in. This week, we have a great

guest. Tristan Harris is here. And Tristan is one of the most eloquent and effective critics of big tech out there today.

He's a former design ethicist at Google, who, after trying to change things from inside the mothership,

left several years ago to try to do it from the outside. He is the person who coined the term time well

spent, which led Apple, Facebook, and Google to all introduce features to track and limit

the time we spend on social media. But that was a baby step. Harris reckons that Big Tech's

algorithms are destroying society in ways that are obvious and not so obvious. In the same way

that carbon is destroying our atmosphere, our environment. And he is calling for huge changes in the

way that big tech operates, the whole surveillance, nature of the internet, etc. What he calls

the attention economy. It's quite radical stuff, but he is also very convincing.

Now, Harris usually spends much of his time jetting around the world, speaking with world

leaders and companies and conferences, kind of sounding the alarm, but we caught up with

him recently.

And I think you're really going to enjoy this one.

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