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Censorship Industrial Complex: Bret Speaks with Michael Shellenberger on the Darkhorse Podcast

DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

4.65.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2023

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

Bret Speaks with Michael Shellenberger for the second time on the DarkHorse Podcast. They discuss censorship, the intelligence apparatus, and political disagreement with decency.

Find Shellenberger on Substack: https://public.substack.com/

Find Shellenberger on Twitter: https://twitter.com/shellenberger

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(03:57) Sponsors

(09:07) Twitter files and free speech

(23:00) Information governance board and Renée DiResta

(31:27) Conspiracy theories and UAPs

(35:41) Renée DiResta and Sam Harris

(52:15) Elon buying Twitter

(55:10) COVID

(59:20) FBI whistleblowers and Anti-Semitism

(01:16:20) Data manipulation

(01:22:26) Back to FBI whistleblowers

(01:32:15) Wrap up

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0:00.0

But then we started to discover that it had this other twist to it,

0:03.6

which was that there was a lot of government involvement.

0:06.6

And the most alarming three letters to see when you're going through documents

0:12.7

that have been released to your FBI or maybe CIA.

0:16.1

And so when you start to see that in DHS and CDC, it's alarming.

0:21.3

And there was an aggressive effort by the US government to directly pressure the social media platforms

0:28.1

to censor disfavored voices.

0:29.8

That's the simplest way to say it. That's what it was.

0:36.1

Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast.

0:38.9

I have the distinct pleasure of sitting early this afternoon with Michael Schellenberger.

0:43.7

This is his second visit to the Dark Horse Podcast.

0:48.2

For those of you who did not see our first discussion, I highly recommend it.

0:53.3

It was done while I was on the road.

0:55.3

In fact, in the very room that Michael is sitting in now, the tech is a little iffy,

0:59.3

but we managed to cobble it together.

1:00.8

And the quality of the discussion I thought was excellent.

1:03.7

So anyway, check that out if you haven't seen it already.

1:07.1

For those who haven't seen it and are going to start with this second podcast,

1:10.6

let me say, is it fair, Michael, to say that we are friends?

1:15.4

Yeah.

1:16.4

Good. All right. I feel that we are friends.

1:19.3

And I feel that at the same time, we were our genemies,

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