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🗓️ 29 July 2023
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Bret Speaks with Michael Shellenberger for the second time on the DarkHorse Podcast. They discuss censorship, the intelligence apparatus, and political disagreement with decency.
Find Shellenberger on Substack: https://public.substack.com/
Find Shellenberger on Twitter: https://twitter.com/shellenberger
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(03:57) Sponsors
(09:07) Twitter files and free speech
(23:00) Information governance board and Renée DiResta
(31:27) Conspiracy theories and UAPs
(35:41) Renée DiResta and Sam Harris
(52:15) Elon buying Twitter
(55:10) COVID
(59:20) FBI whistleblowers and Anti-Semitism
(01:16:20) Data manipulation
(01:22:26) Back to FBI whistleblowers
(01:32:15) Wrap up
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0:00.0 | But then we started to discover that it had this other twist to it, |
0:03.6 | which was that there was a lot of government involvement. |
0:06.6 | And the most alarming three letters to see when you're going through documents |
0:12.7 | that have been released to your FBI or maybe CIA. |
0:16.1 | And so when you start to see that in DHS and CDC, it's alarming. |
0:21.3 | And there was an aggressive effort by the US government to directly pressure the social media platforms |
0:28.1 | to censor disfavored voices. |
0:29.8 | That's the simplest way to say it. That's what it was. |
0:36.1 | Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast. |
0:38.9 | I have the distinct pleasure of sitting early this afternoon with Michael Schellenberger. |
0:43.7 | This is his second visit to the Dark Horse Podcast. |
0:48.2 | For those of you who did not see our first discussion, I highly recommend it. |
0:53.3 | It was done while I was on the road. |
0:55.3 | In fact, in the very room that Michael is sitting in now, the tech is a little iffy, |
0:59.3 | but we managed to cobble it together. |
1:00.8 | And the quality of the discussion I thought was excellent. |
1:03.7 | So anyway, check that out if you haven't seen it already. |
1:07.1 | For those who haven't seen it and are going to start with this second podcast, |
1:10.6 | let me say, is it fair, Michael, to say that we are friends? |
1:15.4 | Yeah. |
1:16.4 | Good. All right. I feel that we are friends. |
1:19.3 | And I feel that at the same time, we were our genemies, |
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