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All right, final hour, Felgray Maz, Chris Mannix on earlier.

And we asked him this one about Chris Taps, Porzziagos, if you have it, Jimmy?

Chris, do the Celtics need Chris Taps, Porzenghis healthy, in your opinion?

A hundred percent. They don't be Cleveland without Porzengis. Like, they don't. You can stop. You know, one of the... Surprise to hear him say that. Yeah, Cleveland, I think they can win, but I understand his logic anyway. They don't even get to the finals without Porzengis. I know. I think he's wrong about that. I think they'd beat Cleveland, but unlike you, I don't think they can win the championship.

Well, I shouldn't say it this way. If they play real teams, they need them. They need them. That's all my point is. I don't think they're so superior to everybody else with Tatum and Brown and Holiday and White that they will win the championship without Chris Taps, Porzenghis. I haven't heard many Celtics guys say this. Cue it back up, Jimmy. Chris, do the Celtics need Chris Taps, Borzzias healthy, in your opinion? 100%. They don't be Cleveland without Porzengis. Like, they don't. Well, you know, one of the conversations I was having recently with the Cleveland people was about Evan

Mowgli, who is probably the biggest reason the Cavs are a bigger threat to the Celtics this year.

And look, Mowgli, you know, Kenny Ackinson was talking to me recently about him.

Like, Kenny Hackinson compares to the Magic Johnson.

Like, that's how bullish he is on the skill set of Evan Mowgli.

But if you look at some of the numbers this season and even last season where Mobley's gone up against Porzingis, it is not gone well. And for the Cavs to beat the Celtics, Mowgli has to dominate that matchup. If it's a coin flip or a wash of a matchup, the Celtics going to win that series. But if Moblegli can completely control it, that gives the Cavs their best chance to win. If Porzenghis is out and you've got to go like five deep with, you know, with Horfordette's starter and Luke Corneck coming off the bench, I think you lose that series to the Cavaliers. They're not, they're not a joke this year. I think Porzingis is that valuable. Wow.

It's a me thing.

I just don't, I look at this Cavs team and think like, okay, and I know they split with the Celtics this Celtics this year. I just think the playoffs would be a different animal and the Celtics will toy with them. And it's a couple of those games. The Celtics won, they toyed with this Cavs team. I think if you lose to that Cav team without

with it without Porzinga

something went really wrong

you really blew it

I don't feel Cleveland's close. I don't. So, look, I think they're closer than you do. I think they would miss Porzingis on the defensive end. You want to tell me that you think the Celtics can score. Fine. No problem. They get enough shooters where they, you know, three or four guys, it should be enough. They should be able to score.

They're going to chuck up their threes and they'll make their share and they're going to score some points. Who's going to protect the rim if they got to go against Cleveland? So now again, do I think that they'll lose to Cleveland? My answer is no. I think they would ultimately beat Cleveland.

I just don't think it's as decisive as you guys do.

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