Celeste – Cane and Rinse No.454

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🗓️ 8 March 2021

⏱️ 118 minutes

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“It's hard to believe that it's over, isn't it? Funny, how we get attached to the struggle.” Join Josh, Brian, Rich and Tony as they attempt to ascend the treacherous peaks of a mysterious mountain while also discovering a bit about themselves along the way. In this issue we discuss how a game began as a simple test of platforming prowess, then evolved into an examination of mental health through game design allegory, which would ultimately lead one of the developers to a deeply profound revelation about their identity. Alongside this, we discuss how the themes and imagery of the game spoke to our experiences. All this and more, as we cover Maddy Thorson and Noel Berry’s 2018 2D platforming adventure, Celeste. http://media.blubrry.com/caneandrinse/caneandrinse.com/podcast/cane_and_rinse_issue_454.mp3 Music featured in this issue: 1. First Steps by Lena Raine2. Reach for the Summit by Lena Raine Cane and Rinse 454 was edited by Jay Taylor You can support Cane and Rinse and in return receive an often extended version of the podcast four weeks early, along with exclusive podcasts, if you subscribe to our Patreon for the minimum of $2 per month (+VAT). Do you have an opinion about a game we're covering that you'd like read on the podcast? Then venture over to our forum and check out the list of upcoming games we're covering. Whilst there you can join in the conversations with our friendly community in discussing all things relating to videogames, along with lots of other stuff too. Sound good? Then come and say hello at The Cane and Rinse forum

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0:00.0	I'm Hello everyone and welcome to another issue of Canaan Rince.
0:34.6	This is issue 454 on Celeste.
0:39.4	And joining me, Joshua Garrity, in this issue, are Tony Atkins.
0:44.0	Hello.
0:45.4	Rich Davison.
0:46.7	Hello.
0:48.1	And Brian Edwards.
0:49.8	Hello, hello.
0:51.8	So, what is Celeste?
0:55.1	Celeste is a 2D pixel art indie platformer in the same vein as Super Meat Boy, where you play
1:03.7	as Madeline in her attempts to climb the mountain known as Celeste and face her inner self in the process.
1:13.6	So this is something that we will likely get into later in the issue, but I debated with
1:21.9	myself about whether or not I should say the name of the developer for this title.
1:29.8	So Maddie Fawson, who is the kind of main lead on Celeste,
1:36.9	had a change of gender identity post the release and development of this title.
1:44.2	And the company name that the developer went by refers to Maddie's dead name.
1:54.1	For anyone who's not familiar with that term, basically a dead name is a trans person's past identity and it is a big, big no-no to refer to
2:07.5	somebody in the trans community by their dead name. But obviously this is a company, a corporate
2:14.7	entity. So I thought that maybe might be a different scenario.
2:19.1	So I consulted some people within the trans community to get their thoughts and feelings.
2:25.2	And while they said that, yes, obviously it is very different from referring to an individual by their dead name,
2:33.9	they advised me to err on the side of caution.
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