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I am your host, Daniel M. Library.

And with me in the studio this week is Miles Clee, a senior staff writer for Mel Magazine,

as well as author of the novel Ivy Land and a collection of stories, True Falls.

Miles, welcome to the show. Thank you so much, Danny. It's

great to be here. I think of you so much as also someone whose job is like assembling tide pools,

occasionally of people getting mad at you online, in like the gentlest way imaginable,

and then sort of just like picking out Starfish and looking at them and be like, oh, that's interesting.

And then moving on.

Yeah.

I guess the other nature metaphor would just be like poking various bears and seeing what happens.

Bears and starfish.

That's kind of like the milieu that I associate you with.

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