So it was a fun live and well I have Dr. Hahn thank you so much for coming back on it's

great to be with you again man I love that you've brought more books to this interview

than I have on my bookshelf yeah well I mentioned you a minute ago the five love languages

that books should have been titled six because books are my love language my security

blankets and all that so I remember I was in your library and I said do you read if you

read all these books and I like your line you said books are like tools it's good to have

them if you need them right I use them you know and many I do try to read all the way

through but not most yeah yeah that's right I mean not to get off on a complete rabbit

trail here but that is something I've heard Peter Krive say like it's a silly idea to

think that you must read a book from beginning to end there are certain books just pick up

I hate to admit this somewhat ashamed but I approach books like I approach stores I know

the owner wants to sell me everything but I come in looking for a few things and if I see

something on sale that I like are a few other things too that's good I usually go and with

the target so good and the St. Paul Center that you've just that is almost complete now here

in student bill is beautiful congratulations thank you I mean that is something I can

not take credit for myself personally but I mean we have a team not only 50 plus strong now

co-workers who are really gifted in zealous but we also had an amazing architect Peter Baldwin

AMDG a convert from Presbyterian isn't out in Grand Rapids and then

Massaro in Pittsburgh I used to work with the teamsters in college one summer you know

loading construction trucks with all kinds of supplies and most of them were Massaro so to have

them on track on budget you know we could possibly move in within the next four to six weeks

you know we'll have to have a permit for occupancy and that sort of thing inspections but nobody

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