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Well, if you were with us last time, you were with us for the beginning of an exciting conversation

that I've been enjoying with a dear friend of 20 years, Dr. Paul Kangor, who's a professor at Grove City College, my

alma mater, and the author of nearly 20 books, including this one is most recent, the

worst of indignities, the Catholic Church on Slavery, published by our own publishing

arm and Mayus wrote here at the St. Paul Center.

Paul, welcome back.

Great to be with you, thank you, sir. Last time we had one of the most exciting interview conversations.

I mean, it was popping with all kinds of insights that I don't think most people realize,

you know, but in particular what you were pointing out

was how highly unoriginal the sin of slavery has been in America.

America was like most all other countries you know slave owning and then you had the

emancipation proclamation and abolition as well and I want to just make mention of the fact that there are three ways to liberate those who are in slavery.

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