Law enforcement is always behind you. We are a lot, we are many, and we are tracing you. Someday we will get you. Hi and welcome to Sabirism's malicious life B-sides. I'm Ren Levy.

In this B-Cadar Cornelius is a German threat researcher and CEO of Invesign, a company specializing in cyber security innovation and an expert on the cybercrime ecosystem in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

Being a threat researcher in Germany isn't easy.

The German law prohibits any action that might assist cyber criminals in any way, and so things like bribing one crook to provide information about another

for example are out of the question. Still Abdel-Kader spent more than a decade researching the various hacker forms in German-speaking countries,

and in this episode he'll share with us a story about how we ended up helping the German police put a local cyber criminal behind bars.

And this hacker was no easy catch.

You might say he was a grizzled veteran, someone who managed to evade a law for 15 years.

But everyone makes mistakes, and this guy's Achilles heel, it turns out, was an old Minecraft account.

Nate Nelson spoke with Abdilkado Cornelius.

Before I let you go, a quick reminder of our live Ask Us Anything Online Event that will take place on June 13th, 12 p.m.

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Join us as we'll be celebrating Malicious Life's fifth birthday,

reminiscing about how the podcast was born, discussing the challenges of

creating a story-oriented technical podcast and most importantly answering all of your questions.

Write it down June 13th 12 p.m. eastern 9 a.m. Western and you can already tweet us your questions or email them to Wren at Wrenlevy.com.

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That's it for now.

Enjoy the interview.

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