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I'm Kate Winkleer Dawson, a non-fiction author and journalism professor in Austin, Texas. I'm also the host of the historical True Crime Podcast,

Tenfold More Wicked, and the co-host of the podcast,

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I've traveled around the world interviewing people for the show and

they are all excellent writers. They've had so many great true crime stories and now we want

to tell you those stories with details that have never been published.

Tenfold War Wicked Presents Wicked Words is about the choices that writers make good and bad.

It's a deep dive into the stories behind the stories.

In the late 60s, a serial killer stalked women in New England.

His name was Tony Costa.

He was unusual because he spent a lot of time drawing in his victims.

We've heard this story from a woman who Costa babysat, but this is a different account.

Journalist Casey Sherman tells me the story from his book, Helltown,

the untold story of a serial killer on Cape Cod.

Well, let's talk about this book. Is it different than the other books that you've done? How does it stand out to you?

This book is much different from anything else that I've ever done. And I was really inspired when I wrote this book

by two of the characters that I write about,

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