On To the Point, we try to make sense of the policy debates and the political sideshows on the campaign trail.

Neither party's agenda really aligns with who its coalition is today.

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When people walk into a voting booth, at the end of the day, they do say,

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podcast on KCRW's iTunes page. From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's the treatment. It's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. I think one of the most remarkable things about my guest, writer, director,

operator, cinematographer, Carrie Fukenaga, is that there's always a sense of movement in his films and rootlessness.

We can go back to his film, Sinombray, his great work on the first season of the HBO series, True Detective, and his terrific new film, adapted from the novel, Beasts of No Nation, which is getting theatrical play, but also on Netflix.

First of all, Carrie, thanks so much for being here.

Thanks for having me, and that sense of ruthlessness in your movies, that sense of people looking for a place to land,

in your, I shouldn't say your movies, in your work, where does that come from for you?

I don't know. I mean, I lived a pretty itinerant childhood, and I wouldn't say a dramatically itinerant

childhood, but I was always moving around. Like, by the time I was in high school, I didn't have friends from when I was in kindergarten. I was always jealous of those kids

that had friends that long. But I kept moving in even through college and in my 20s and

transplanting different countries in different cities and trying to figure out how I was going to learn

to make movies. And maybe that somehow has bled into the themes of my movies itself,

but I haven't tried to analyze it too much.

Well, that's why we're here, so we can peel back the layers of this.

But certainly, because I even feel it's more the case with the film of Beasts of No Nation

than the novel, that sense of not having a place to be and looking for a place to,

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