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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Cartoonist Bill Griffith on "Nancy" and "Zippy the Pinhead"

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Jesse Thorn

Society & Culture

4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

The Nancy comic strip is one of the most iconic and influential strips out there. It's a comic snob's favorite, but you also don't have to be a super fan to love it. Cartoonist Bill Griffith is a comic nerd who loves Nancy. Last year he released a graphic biography about the creator of Nancy. It's called Three Rocks: The Story of Ernie Bushmiller. It's a beautiful appreciation of Bushmiller's work. Bill Griffith joins the show to talk about the book and the long-lasting impact that Nancy has had on comics.

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Bullseye with Jesse Thorne is a production of maximum fund.org

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and is distributed by NPR. It's Boles High. I'm Jesse Thorne. 90 years ago, Nancy was born. Just Nancy, no surname. She's 8 years old, about hip high.

0:48.3

She's got a red skirt, black sweater vest, and a bow in her hair. You know the hair, right? It's almost perfectly

0:56.7

round, short, frizzy. She is a comics character. You could actually say she is in a way the comics character.

1:06.0

Older than peanuts, older than Beedle Bailey and Dennis the Menace.

1:10.0

It's also beloved by connoisseurs of the genre. You don't have to be a

1:14.8

super fan to love it, of course. It is one of the most broadly successful newspaper

1:20.2

comic strips ever. But it's also a snobs favorite, like if the Velvet Underground did

1:26.6

Green Day numbers. Why? Well, the aesthetic is iconic in that everyone would recognize it and also in that it is made of icons,

1:38.5

the simplest forms that represent something much more complex.

1:43.0

That's what comics are, after all.

1:45.1

And instead of being about old familiar characters

1:48.6

like a lot of strips, the jokes in Nancy

1:51.3

have a surreal almost abstract quality. The punchline is as often about the comics form as it is about kids causing trouble.

2:01.5

One of those comics super nerds who loves Nancy is Bill Griffith.

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Griffith is a newspaper comics artist himself. He's written Zippy the Pinhead for 50 years.

2:12.0

He got turned on to the magic of Nancy decades ago by a fellow

2:16.5

alternative comics luminary, Art Spiegelman. Griffith's new book is a graphic biography of Nancy's creator. It's called Three Rocks,

2:26.1

the story of Ernie Bushmiller. I'm so grateful to get to talk to Bill about his wonderful book.

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