There's no limit.

I mean, these chemists are very smart.

They're very creative.

And they just experiment.

And I think there's a lot of dead people in the part of that experiment.

They just work there.

You know, it's like a bad episode of Breaking Bad, but it truly is making that blue

meth that was highlighted in that television series.

And one thing I like about that series is it showed the chemistry involved. It kind of went in depth a little bit to the concept of you don't need to be, you know, some mad PhD scientist out of like the Stanford think tank or, you know, some bio lab. These are Mexican. These are Chinese. These areel, gangster chemists that have a little bit of

base knowledge and they're creative. So they will continue to experiment and they'll find something

that will make them more money with no concern for life or humanity and that is going to get

people addicted quicker so they can sell more product. How can I help? How can I be useful in ending needless suffering?

Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

We have to organize a social movement.

We have an opportunity to lead by example versus just talking, hot air.

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually it could change.

The people are the ones that can make the change.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Change Agents, an Iron Cloud original, proudly presented by Montana Knife Company.

Today, we're going to be talking about something that is very close to home for me, and I mean that literally and figuratively.

We are going to be discussing how cartels are infiltrating the state of Montana.

Joining us on today's show is return guest John Norris.

If you have followed a podcast, the first time that we spoke, mostly was about his time

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