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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Cartels, Fake Agents, and Human Trafficking in Sports (Chris Dalby Returns)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.8607 Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode, Andy welcomes back Chris Dalby, an expert on human trafficking in sports, to uncover the alarming rise of fake agents exploiting young soccer players. Chris breaks down how these fraudulent agents, often connected to criminal syndicates, lure athletes with false promises of international contracts in Europe or the U.S. and ultimately trap them in human trafficking rings. To learn more about Chris's work, check out World of Crime Think Tank Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Sponsors: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ MTNTOUGH Go to ⁠https://mtntough.com⁠ and enter code CHANGEAGENTS to receive 40% OFF - a savings of about $100 off your MTNTOUGH+ annual subscription. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:06.2

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0:11.1

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0:17.2

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0:22.8

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0:26.6

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0:30.3

Of course.

0:30.9

Well, the most famous pipeline for illegal, for sport trafficking in the US is Cuban baseball players.

0:39.8

Cuban baseball players are by far the most well-understood scale. Because Cuba is similarly to African soccer players,

0:47.2

Cuba and the Dominican Republic to a lesser extent are mills for baseball players. It's a national

0:51.1

sport and many, many players dream of going to the big leagues

0:54.7

in the US. So there was a case a few years ago, a very famous agent, Bart Hernandez, basically

1:00.1

invented baseball trafficking. Julia Estrada, you had figures connected to the white socks.

1:06.7

You had figures connected to the Mariners involved in trafficking Cuban players to the US.

1:12.4

The mechanics are the same.

1:13.6

You bring in 50 players.

1:15.2

You try them out at different clubs.

1:17.0

And if one of them makes it big, you're going to make a bunch of money, right?

1:22.1

How can I help?

1:23.2

How can I be useful in ending needless suffering?

1:26.4

Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

1:32.7

We have to organize a social movement.

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