Carole Cadwalladr on her role in Cambridge Analytica's downfall and "The Great Hack"

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🗓️ 15 August 2019

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Investigative reporter for the Observer and the Guardian Carole Cadwalladr's year-long investigation resulted in the downfall of data company Cambridge Analytica. Her central role in the scandal is examined in the new Netflix documentary, "The Great Hack," which she discusses with John Avlon. Cadwalladr also talks about the still-open questions about Cambridge Analytica, its impact on UK and US elections, as well as citizens' lack of ownership over their own data.To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The 2016 campaign taught us lots of things about the appeals of populism and the dangerous draws of disinformation.
0:09.0	But even with all the ensuing investigations, it's clear that harnessing voters personal information
0:14.0	online is the future of political campaigns.
0:17.4	I'm John Avalon, in for Brian Stelter, and this is the Reliable Sources podcast, our weekly
0:22.4	chance to go in depth with media
0:24.0	leaders and newsmakers about how the news is made and how all of us can help make
0:28.3	it better. In 2016, Donald Trump's campaign hired the data company Cambridge Analytica.
0:34.0	By using a loophole in an agreement, the company was using personal information from upwards of 50 million
0:39.3	Facebook users to better target voters on a psychological level.
0:43.0	What resulted was a Pandora's box of information that would inspire cultural and political warfare online.
0:50.0	A great new Netflix documentary, The Great Hack, re-examines the scandal and on today's
0:55.0	podcast I have a central figure from the documentary.
0:58.6	Investicative reporter for the Observer and The Guardian Carol Caldwell's year-long investigation resulted in the downfall of the data company
1:04.8	Cambridge Analytica and a public apology from Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg.
1:08.6	She joins me now.
1:09.6	Carol Kudwalader, thank you for joining us.
1:11.8	Take us to the beginning because you didn't start out
1:15.1	as a tech reporter, and when this story first came to light,
1:19.4	a lot of tech reporters sort of looked sideways in it
1:21.7	and said, well, everybody knows that's the way the world works.
1:25.1	There's no news here, but you didn't take that approach, did you?
1:29.4	Well, I sort of fell down a wormhole very early on so I started I've literally been on this
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