There's a lot that you as a Christian need to know about, and a lot of it is pretty much evil.

... And here to talk about the evil behind the good in today's world is Carl Ticrip.

He's the author of Game of Gods.

And of course we had him on a previous program. We're continuing

our conversation because Carl there is just so much to talk about. It's going to take two programs,

maybe more, who knows. But we're going to talk about Game of Gods. And the thing about this book

is that it's a documentary, but it's more than a documentary

because you go out into the world among people that, let's put it this way, are less than

wholesome many times, and you do your research in the field.

And the information you've brought back I think think, is unique and it's very,

very dramatically compelling.

You know, it's important for myself as a researcher. I consider myself a researcher more

than I consider myself a writer. My forte, so to speak, is to go, to spend time, to listen, to document, and then to try to place

this within the context of how is this changing our world? How is this forcing change upon

our world? And then, of course, from the Christian point of view, because that's essential.

Yeah. How do we as Christians then respond to that?

Now, there's something I want to go into, because I know that most of you out there

as Christians, and probably other than Christian, if you're watching, have heard

of the term new ager.

And this goes back into the 70s, 80s,

90s. Everybody remembers Shirley McLean. A lot of people in Hollywood were quote unquote

new agers and there was such a thing at one point as the New Age movement. Where has that gone,

...