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Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

Cariad Lloyd on coping with grief and finding humour in death

Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy

Channel 4 News

Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

“I was thinking about all my friends who launched a podcast and I thought, “if I had a podcast. I'd just talk to people about death. That's a terrible idea”.” When Cariad Lloyd’s father died of cancer when she was 15, she was angry, “for, probably, 10 years”. But later in life, she found herself wanting to share her experience of grief, and started the award-winning podcast Griefcast.

Cariad has now written a book, ‘You Are Not Alone’, which delves into her own experience of grief, and what she has learned from her hundreds of podcast guests. In today’s Ways to Change the World, Cariad sits down with Krishnan Guru-Murthy to discuss dying, death, grief, and what comes next.

Produced by Imahn Robertson

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome two ways to change the world. I'm Christian Garry Murphy and this is

0:07.5

the podcast in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas and their lives

0:11.7

and the events that have helped shape them. My guest this week is perhaps most famous

0:17.9

now for a podcast but it's also an actor, a comedian, an improviser if that's the word.

0:26.5

And now a writer because she's done a book associated with the podcast which is grief

0:31.5

cast. So I'm talking about Carrie Adloid who's book is called You Are Not Alone. Welcome.

0:38.9

Now grief cast is sort of a cult thing isn't it? So it's a polite way of saying not

0:44.8

necessarily massively popular but it's also a club and you refer to it as a club.

0:50.8

Definitely. So maybe you explain most of it. Sure. I'm Christian Garry Murphy. Welcome to

0:57.3

the podcast. So grief cast is a show where I interview people about their experiences of grief

1:03.0

and death. It started out with me interviewing comedians because that was my world and they were

1:07.8

people I had at numbers off so I could text someone so you do want to do my podcast. I've been doing

1:12.3

it for nearly seven years so it's moved on to all sorts of people writers, producers, public figures

1:17.9

I suppose. And we're nearly done 200 episodes, 10 seasons. And yeah, I never expected it to be

1:25.6

this part of my life at all at all. It was not I didn't set out thinking bite that's it. I want

1:30.2

to stop doing live comedy and I want to do a podcast that's about death. That's not what I started.

1:35.1

But I suppose the reason that I do it is the important thing is that my dad died when I was 15

1:41.5

of pancreatic cancer. And so I joined the club very early as I like to say got there, put the nibbles

1:47.4

out, got the Pepsi ready in the Luke side. And I've had spent a long time talking about death. So I

1:53.6

felt like I could continue to talk about death. So when did you start the podcast and why?

1:59.6

So I started in 2016. Now you have to remember Christian in 2016 podcasts were for comedians.

2:05.4

Like they were the only people doing them. No one took them seriously. It was like a way to

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