The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode.

Hey everyone, welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. Hey this is a special

episode you know we never release episodes of the call to master on Tuesdays but two

reasons why I'm doing this. Number one, I wanted to say thank you for making 2019

Such a great start to this podcast. You guys are overwhelming me with your praise of this show.

I'm so glad you guys love it.

I love making this thing for you.

We have so many more great conversations

to bring you in 2020.

So this is an extra episode to say thank you.

Second reason why we're releasing an

episode today is my guest today is actually releasing an episode with me on the

other side of the microphone on his podcast today. So we thought it would be fun to release the

episodes back to back the very very same day, December 31st 2019. So after you

listen to this episode, go listen to me on his podcast who is he who's my guest his

name's Carrie Newhoff he's the founder of one of the largest churches in North

America connects his church up near Toronto but you probably know him as the host of the wildly successful

Carrie Newhoff leadership podcast. Carrie is a masterful leader, he's an exceptional

communicator, and we recently sat down while I was in

Toronto to talk about the seven greatest challenges that no leader ever expects but pretty much

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