Welcome back to the Personality Hacker podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonio, Dutch. So, Antonio, I just saw something on social media that I have never seen before.

And I was like, oh, that's cool. I actually saved it on my phone. It's a picture of a set of stairs

that are called witch steps.

And they don't have like, you know how like normal stairs have like normal steps.

These have like a left and right element to them.

So like they stagger.

So you could like kind of like walk up like in a weird weird way.

Oh, I saw those.

It was supposed to make it so that

when witches came to your house that you confused them and they couldn't go up your steps.

They can't go up your steps. Yeah. Right. And I thought it was really interesting. And these are

these are mostly found in New England in the United States. I think like upstate New York,

the Hudson River Valley. Because back, you know, 18th century, there was a lot of old wives

tales that witches were going to come for you and like sleepy hollow, you know, that whole like,

I don't know.

Or Salem Witch Trials and everybody's name Goody.

That's right.

Goody.

Young Goodman Brown was that Nathaniel Hawthorne books and stuff.

Like, I don't know.

I just, I saw those and I think it's relevant to what we're talking about today

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