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Hey mom and daughter fighting listeners, we're off today because it's Juneteenth,

but we didn't want to leave you without an episode. So, we're bringing you an interesting and perhaps

kind of provocative conversation from Slate's podcast Hear Me Out. The episode is from a few weeks

back, but we thought it was still relevant seeing as we just celebrated Father's Day.

I'm going to hand the mic over to host Celeste Headley and we'll see you back here on Thursday.

Welcome to Hear Me Out. I'm your host Celeste Headley. As we enter the summer months already,

it means we're also approaching two kind of fraught holidays for lots of Americans,

Mother's Day and Father's Day. Now, you might think of these holidays as silly or superficial

or commercialized beyond belief, but their origins are deeply political. In parenting,

whether you like it or not, is political as well. To be a parent means being in a really

complicated relationship with a person who didn't necessarily choose to be there.

So, in the best of circumstances, is bringing a kid into the world a selfish act,

if they can't consent to be here? Consider this. Maybe kids don't owe their parents anything.

Yeah, you deserve a day off, but the idea that your kids owe you that,

no, you owe your kids. It's hard to be alive and you force them to be alive.

Writer and influencer Gabrielle Blair joins us on Hear Me Out in just a moment. Stay with us.

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