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🗓️ 25 January 2023
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18-year-old Brittany Phillips is last seen on September 27, 2004. Just before 10 p.m., she dropped the friend off at home and then drove to her own apartment on 65th Street. The following day, Tulsa Police find Brittany raped and murdered in her Tulsa apartment. In 2019, DNA led to a possible suspect. That person was cleared.
In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with Dr. Maggie Zingman, the mother of Brittany Phillips. They discuss what Brittany was like as a young adult, what events led up to the night of the gruesome murder, the benefits and setbacks of DNA involvement, and ultimately the reasons why this case needs to be started over completely.
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.
You can connect and learn more about Sheryl’s work by visiting the CCIRI website https://coldcasecrimes.org
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| 0:00.0 | This episode on Brittany Phillips, we need to start over completely on this case, in my opinion. |
| 0:06.8 | We need fresh eyes, fresh ears, even fresh legs on this thing. |
| 0:12.4 | We need to go back to the community. |
| 0:14.1 | Law enforcement needs time to re-examine, re-interview, reininvestigate, and I believe, resubmit evidence. |
| 0:32.6 | I have now dropped both my son and daughter off at college. |
| 0:37.2 | Moving them into their first apartment |
| 0:39.0 | was like a success and a heartbreak at the exact same time. I was so happy for them, but at the |
| 0:46.8 | same time I was going to miss them something terrible. Anything that could make that experience |
| 0:53.2 | easier, I just lunged toward it. |
| 0:56.0 | And one of the things that I found comfort in is they were both living with friends |
| 1:01.0 | since they had known from elementary school or middle school that came from wonderful families, |
| 1:07.0 | and this helped ease my mind. |
| 1:10.0 | So in our case today, when the mom leaves her daughter in her first apartment, knowing the apartment is right across the street from her old high school, there has to be comfort in that. |
| 1:25.6 | Her old school resource officer is right there, just yards away from her front door. |
| 1:31.3 | Old teachers and administrators that knew her and cared about her. |
| 1:35.3 | Old coaches that would have helped her in a heartbeat if anything were to happen. |
| 1:40.3 | You're talking about roughly 50 adults that could have helped her child any minute from about |
| 1:47.2 | seven in the morning till dinner time when practices were over. |
| 1:51.3 | She had access to those people to help her. |
| 1:54.8 | I'm Cheryl McCollum and this is Zone 7. |
| 1:57.8 | I started my career in the trenches and This is Zone 7. |
| 2:06.6 | I started my career in the trenches, and honey, I've stayed there. |
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